Video Recap of Weekly Search Buzz :: October 23, 2009

itunes-subscribe-video.pngGoogle seemed to have a minor search update, while Bing had a major search index update. Microsoft and Google both confirmed deals with Twitter on the firehouse. Yahoo added Delicious data and Search Monkey data to Site Explorer. AdWords released an update to their API v2009 and is sunsetting version 13 on April 22, 2010. Google confirmed the ad position move made for a higher click through rate. Google is indenting multiple results now. Bing is a bit too crawl happy with MSNBot. Google added ” is this accurate” to the web maps. Most SEOs do not link to competitors. That was this week at the Search Engine Roundtable.

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itunes-subscribe-video.pngGoogle seemed to have a minor search update, while Bing had a major search index update. Microsoft and Google both confirmed deals with Twitter on the firehouse. Yahoo added Delicious data and Search Monkey data to Site Explorer. AdWords released an update to their API v2009 and is sunsetting version 13 on April 22, 2010. Google confirmed the ad position move made for a higher click through rate. Google is indenting multiple results now. Bing is a bit too crawl happy with MSNBot. Google added ” is this accurate” to the web maps. Most SEOs do not link to competitors. That was this week at the Search Engine Roundtable.

Make sure to subscribe to our video feed or subscribe directly on iTunes to be notified of these updates and download the video in the background. Here is the YouTube version of the feed:


For the original iTunes version, click here or to see the YouTube version in higher quality, click play & hit “HD.”

Some Of The Topics Discussed:

Please do subscribe via iTunes or on your favorite RSS reader. Don’t forget to comment below with the right answer and good luck!



Google, Bing & (Yes) Yahoo Buy Tweets From Twitter

Watching the search news yesterday was pretty interesting. First, there were tons of rumors that Microsoft will be integrating Twitter data into Bing. Then the news broke on that where Bing confirmed the news. It launched, in limited form, at bing.com/twitter.

Shortly after, Google also confirmed a deal with Twitter to get their data as well and the news sites went nuts.

Yes, Twitter is licensing out the “firehose” of the tweets to search engines. Bing was doing something like this on a limited basis with Twitter in Bing search on some searches. Yahoo was/is reportedly in similar negotiations with Twitter as well.

In summary, clearly the search engines find the content within Twitter to be valuable. For more on this topic, see the stream of reports from Search Engine Land:

Forum discussion at WebmasterWorld, DigitalPoint Forums and Bing Community.


Watching the search news yesterday was pretty interesting. First, there were tons of rumors that Microsoft will be integrating Twitter data into Bing. Then the news broke on that where Bing confirmed the news. It launched, in limited form, at bing.com/twitter.

Shortly after, Google also confirmed a deal with Twitter to get their data as well and the news sites went nuts.

Yes, Twitter is licensing out the “firehose” of the tweets to search engines. Bing was doing something like this on a limited basis with Twitter in Bing search on some searches. Yahoo was/is reportedly in similar negotiations with Twitter as well.

In summary, clearly the search engines find the content within Twitter to be valuable. For more on this topic, see the stream of reports from Search Engine Land:

Forum discussion at WebmasterWorld, DigitalPoint Forums and Bing Community.



Maybe a Minor Google Search Update (October 2009)?

Over the past day or so, I have been seeing and watching a small increase in the number of threads discussing either global changes to the Google index or people complaining (at a higher rate) that their site is no longer ranking as well in Google.

Yes, Google is constantly changing, so this may just be that people are around more to notice? But the shift in the forum patterns that I watch on this specific topic is trending towards a possible Google update that is larger than a normal Google daily flux.

We have threads on the topic at DigitalPoint Forums (actually a few there, as always), an ongoing WebmasterWorld thread with new activity and dozens of threads at Google Webmaster Help.

Again, this may be nothing or it may be early signs of an update coming. There have also been complaints both in the Google Webmaster Help forums and at WebmasterWorld of connectivity issues with Google.

The last time we reported on an update was in August where Matt Cutts of Google told us there was nothing going on.

Forum discussion at DigitalPoint Forums, WebmasterWorld and Google Webmaster Help.


Over the past day or so, I have been seeing and watching a small increase in the number of threads discussing either global changes to the Google index or people complaining (at a higher rate) that their site is no longer ranking as well in Google.

Yes, Google is constantly changing, so this may just be that people are around more to notice? But the shift in the forum patterns that I watch on this specific topic is trending towards a possible Google update that is larger than a normal Google daily flux.

We have threads on the topic at DigitalPoint Forums (actually a few there, as always), an ongoing WebmasterWorld thread with new activity and dozens of threads at Google Webmaster Help.

Again, this may be nothing or it may be early signs of an update coming. There have also been complaints both in the Google Webmaster Help forums and at WebmasterWorld of connectivity issues with Google.

The last time we reported on an update was in August where Matt Cutts of Google told us there was nothing going on.

Forum discussion at DigitalPoint Forums, WebmasterWorld and Google Webmaster Help.



Is Yahoo! The Center Of Your Online Life?

When Yahoo! brokered a deal with Microsoft to let the corporate monolith handle the former’s search functions, both companies were criticized all over the Web. Of course, there were the kudos as well. Some people thought the deal didn’t go far enough while others thought it went too far. But the bottom line, for Yahoo! [...]

When Yahoo! brokered a deal with Microsoft to let the corporate monolith handle the former’s search functions, both companies were criticized all over the Web. Of course, there were the kudos as well. Some people thought the deal didn’t go far enough while others thought it went too far. But the bottom line, for Yahoo! at least, was could it be profitable?

The answer is in.

But I have one question: What does this little sentence mean?

“With new products like Yahoo! homepage, our brand revitalization campaign and expansion in the Middle East through Maktoob.com, our execution is improving and we’re focused on what we do best – being the center of people’s online lives.”

Yahoo! has always defined itself as a Web portal. To many people, that meant a place where people could go to search for information on a variety of topics. You could do that with Yahoo! search or pick a category like Sports, Autos, Games, etc. You could hang out on Yahoo! all night and really enjoy yourself. And many do. Do you?

This may be great for people who just want to relax when they get off of work. Instead of settling down with a beer and an episode of South Park, they can play Yahoo! Games, chat with Aunt Martha, or check the weather. But how does this help marketers?

Well, Yahoo! still accepts advertisers. So you could purchase a display ad and see how many people don’t click on it. But you could also advertise through Yahoo! search using paid search marketing – Yahoo!s equivalent to Google AdWords. The search function may be managed by Microsoft, but Yahoo! is still managing the advertising and taking a cut in the profits. That may not matter to you if you are an advertiser, but if Yahoo! remains profitable then it at least means that advertisers have another option on the table.

Google Now Indenting Two Results In Search Results

Since we cover almost every little change that Google makes, why not cover this. I have been hearing reports both at WebmasterWorld and via email from Tom and on Twitter that Google is showing now a main listing with two (not one or five) indented results.

Here is one picture of what I mean:

google-indented-results.png

Normally, Google will show a maximum of one indented results. More recently, Google was showing a single indented result with a plus box to five more.

I believe this double indented result is fairly new and more and more people will begin to see this.

Forum discussion at WebmasterWorld and thanks to Tom and David.


Since we cover almost every little change that Google makes, why not cover this. I have been hearing reports both at WebmasterWorld and via email from Tom and on Twitter that Google is showing now a main listing with two (not one or five) indented results.

Here is one picture of what I mean:

google-indented-results.png

Normally, Google will show a maximum of one indented results. More recently, Google was showing a single indented result with a plus box to five more.

I believe this double indented result is fairly new and more and more people will begin to see this.

Forum discussion at WebmasterWorld and thanks to Tom and David.



Very Brief Local SEO Thoughts

My blog muse must have caught the h1m1 virus recently. So in order to appease the angry hordes of readers who await words of wisdom from on high here are a couple of very low-effort (to do and to write about) local seo ideas for you:

Common misspellings can be effective for the right terms (see [...]

My blog muse must have caught the h1m1 virus recently. So in order to appease the angry hordes of readers who await words of wisdom from on high here are a couple of very low-effort (to do and to write about) local seo ideas for you:

  • Common misspellings can be effective for the right terms (see above).  What are the common misspellings you can rank for that can convert to business?
  • The advent of flat rate Google local search ads is going to force a lot of local search directories to start investing heavily in expanding their footprint in search.  This means developing more content (read “articles”) that can attract searches that won’t trigger local listings in a search result. Ten bucks says that every major yellow pages publisher will launch a how to plan a wedding guide and the like in the next twelve months.
  • While there is still plenty of room to grow in ranking for Web results and Maps results, mobile search is starting to drive enough usage to become the playground of creative marketers & manipulators.  For example, by uploading a photo to your Yahoo local listing you can push the listings after yours below the fold of the mobile browser (hat tip to McStud).  99% of the competition still has no clue about this stuff so go forth and make hay while the gray sun still shines.
  • Keep an eye on which sites are being used as citations on Google Maps for your category.  New sites are being added regularly and you might discover a new outlet to get your profile on before your competition.

Bloggers with hopefully something more interesting to say:

Google Maps: Will We Ever See Sunrise?

Do You Ever Link To The Competition?

Google Place Pages Show Prominent Snippets of Consumer Sentiment

LinkedIn Company Profile Tutorial

Are We Waking To A New Day With Google Maps?

SEO Followed By Website Optimization: Beat Your Competition

Google Local Listing Ads And The Death of YP Advertising

Google Plays Monopoly And Owns Every Piece on The Board

Google Shares Their Online Reputation Management Advice

The Google Blog and Webmaster Central blog posted a blog post named Managing your reputation through search results. In this blog post, Susan from Google explains tips on how to manage your reputation online.

Basic advice from “think twice before putting your personal information online.” To tips on how to contact the source of the content you want removed. If that doesn’t work, Susan explains that you can try to create new pages that might outrank the negative pages in the search results. All of these tips are at the core of online reputation management.

What I found funny, maybe on a more personal level, was that every online reputation management company came out and piggy-backed off this Google blog post. Just scan some of the posts in the Google Web Search Help thread and see some of the blog posts referencing Google’s post.

Anyway, if you have a reputation management issue and you cannot buy your way out of it, then you likely want to read some of those tips and join the thread.

Forum discussion at Google Web Search Help.


The Google Blog and Webmaster Central blog posted a blog post named Managing your reputation through search results. In this blog post, Susan from Google explains tips on how to manage your reputation online.

Basic advice from “think twice before putting your personal information online.” To tips on how to contact the source of the content you want removed. If that doesn’t work, Susan explains that you can try to create new pages that might outrank the negative pages in the search results. All of these tips are at the core of online reputation management.

What I found funny, maybe on a more personal level, was that every online reputation management company came out and piggy-backed off this Google blog post. Just scan some of the posts in the Google Web Search Help thread and see some of the blog posts referencing Google’s post.

Anyway, if you have a reputation management issue and you cannot buy your way out of it, then you likely want to read some of those tips and join the thread.

Forum discussion at Google Web Search Help.



AVG Releases Update To Fix Google Security Threat Warning

Friday we reported AVG security called some of Google’s pages a security threat. Later on in the day, Googler, Jem came in to tell us they spoke with AVG who promised to resolve the issue soon.

Jem Said:

We’ve been informed by AVG that they’ve made a change that should resolve the issue. If your AVG installation is set to auto-update (which is the default), this issue should be resolved. If you’ve changed that setting, you may need to check for an update first.

Several hours later, Google users with the AVG software have confirmed the fix did resolve the issue on the Google search result pages.

Forum discussion continued at Google Web Search Help.


Friday we reported AVG security called some of Google’s pages a security threat. Later on in the day, Googler, Jem came in to tell us they spoke with AVG who promised to resolve the issue soon.

Jem Said:

We’ve been informed by AVG that they’ve made a change that should resolve the issue. If your AVG installation is set to auto-update (which is the default), this issue should be resolved. If you’ve changed that setting, you may need to check for an update first.

Several hours later, Google users with the AVG software have confirmed the fix did resolve the issue on the Google search result pages.

Forum discussion continued at Google Web Search Help.



Search Quality > Politics

[I wrote this in January 2008 but never posted it. I think people might still want to read this, so I'm posting it now.]
In an election year, everybody gets a little more sensitive about politics, so I wanted a write a pre-emptive post in case anyone accuses Google of political bias in our search results [...]

[I wrote this in January 2008 but never posted it. I think people might still want to read this, so I'm posting it now.]

In an election year, everybody gets a little more sensitive about politics, so I wanted a write a pre-emptive post in case anyone accuses Google of political bias in our search results sometime this year.

This is my personal opinion, but in my way of looking at the world, search quality > politics. That is, preserving the quality and accuracy of our search results is the best way we can help our users, while skewing our search algorithms to espouse a particular political party’s viewpoint would be anathema. This month I finish my eighth year at Google and begin my ninth (geez, I’m old), and in that entire time I can’t remember even the tiniest suggestion to bias Google’s search results toward any political party. The trust of our users is important, and in my opinion it would be an abuse of that trust to skew our search results toward any particular political view. I suspect that if you checked with old-timers at other search engines, they’d say similar things.

Google Maps Should Consider A Canonical Phone Number Tag

Google Maps, local search engines, internet yellow pages and other online business directories often receive biz listing info from a great many sources and must merge it together (see my description of this in Eric Enge’s interview with me). When this happens, loads of variations in the business’s name, address and even phone number can [...]

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Google Maps, local search engines, internet yellow pages and other online business directories often receive biz listing info from a great many sources and must merge it together (see my description of this in Eric Enge’s interview with me). When this happens, loads of variations in the business’s name, address and even phone number can cause listing data to fail to be merged. All this makes me think we might need a “Canonical Tag” for phone numbers! Read on, and I’ll elaborate…

Some business directories and data aggregators contain huge percentages of bad listings including gone-out-of-business companies and duplicated listings. Pankaj Mathur of InfoUSA recently estimated that some sources such as Dunn & Bradstreet, Acxiom, Localeze and Google Maps might contain 17-to-18-million records, or up to 4 million more records than actual, live businesses! That’s as much as a 28.6% error rate!

I know from experience that some percentage of a business directory’s bloat can be caused by inability to figure out if a business has closed up for good or not (most data sources are not set up to verify each individual business, although InfoUSA remains an example of the gold standard, relying on a practice of phoning each and every business to verify it’s viability at least once per year, and also using a number of other signals of possible closure). These old, dead business listings clog up a great many online directories and can result in poor usability when consumers attempt to drive to their doorsteps for products or services.

However, another source of bloat is in the form of duplicate listings, and as a search engine marketer, it’s these duplicate listings that my clients sometimes have which concern me highly. Just as with duplicate webpages in regular SEO, duplicate listings in business directories and within Google Maps can potentially dilute down a company’s possible ranking score, resulting in lower overall rankings and poorer online performance.

Back in February, Google and other search engines jointly announced support of a canonical tag for webpages, enabling webmasters to specify which page URL should be treated as the main/authoritative one for search engine indexing in cases where multiple URL variations could occur.

If such a protocol makes sense for the general web search engines, why not a protocol to assist in reducing dupes in local search, too?

Google Maps help suggests that users can help them identify cases of duplicate listings, but the problem is that dupes may be constantly coming in through all of Google’s various data partners.

At the recent Kelsey Conference, local directory industry experts predict that Cost-Per-Call is increasingly going to become a dominant pricing model and this will mainly happen through individual directories displaying different tracking phone numbers for the same businesses – and all these different channels with separate phones feed into Google Maps, Yahoo! Local, Bing Maps, and other local search engines. So, potential issues from many various phone numbers could be increasing.

Tracking phone numbers are not the only potential problem – sometimes a company’s alternate phone numbers and fax numbers will get parsed off into separate business listings, causing further instances of duplication.

So, how could this “Canonical Phone Tag” effectively be accomplished? hCard Microformat already provides a framework for doing something like this. A canonical phone tag could be formed like this:

<abbr class=”tel” title=”000.867.5309″>000.123.4567</abbr>

In this example, webpage users could see the “000.123.4567″ tracking phone number when they view the webpage, and the machines could instead glean the authoritative, canonical phone number for the business, “000.867.5309″, and ignore the tracking number.

So, is this a solution in search of a problem?

How many of you have encountered instances where a tracking phone number has gotten indexed in a separate listing alongside a business’s primary phone number/listing? If so, this solution may be worthwhile to consider in keeping all of a business’s ranking weight combined in one listing as opposed to distributed across many.

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