Is Your Competitor Calling You?

This can really cater towards any type of industry but right now I am writing this specifically for the search engine optimization industry. For all you search engine marketers out there who might have their own business that over laps their competition in similarities you might know and understand where I am coming from with [...]

This can really cater towards any type of industry but right now I am writing this specifically for the search engine optimization industry. For all you search engine marketers out there who might have their own business that over laps their competition in similarities you might know and understand where I am coming from with this blog post. Every once in a while we get these very strange calls. A person will call from an undisclosed phone number or a cell phone and they come off like they have no idea what SEO is but slowly their verbiage changes and they get highly technical towards the end of the call. These calls are almost always combined with very basic websites or splash pages with virtually no address, content or contact information which leads me to believe this can only be the work of a competitor digging for information on our business specifically.

Here are few things that could be your competitor calling:

Phone Numbers: I always find it strange when all the phone numbers given to me just don’t add up at all. The phone number on the caller ID is different from the phone number given to me. Both numbers reach a very generic voice mail greeting, very strange if you ask me. Whenever I get the gut feeling I am speaking with a competitor the phone number situation always occurs like this. The phone numbers never match up and they always get dumped into generic voicemails. The phone number is usually the first giveaway that something is fishy. I have been doing this long enough to realize when this is happening and I can usually pick up on it early the sales call.

Person’s Name: I like to also do a quick search online for the person’s name to see what comes up and ironically that is also a mystery. The caller’s name never appears in search results and if I combine the name and the phone number it gets even foggier. Nothing visible anywhere. At this point I have almost always confirmed my gut feeling that the caller I just spent a half hour with was most likely a competitor fishing around to find out how it is that we do business.

No Address: After making the prior observations I find that there is no address located anywhere on the website. No address visible anywhere on any site leads me to believe it is a micro site that belongs to the competitor that is most likely just used for phishing around with competitor sales departments to find out pricing along with approaches and techniques. Plugging in the name of the website into a search engine typically pulls up close to zero amount of information cementing my intuition even deeper into the reality of the situation.

Verbiage: This is usually a dead giveaway as well. The call almost always starts off like a very new comer to the SEO industry but after a few minutes of speaking all of a sudden the verbiage being used gets very advanced and highly technical. How does a person who has a very unSEO’d website and basic bare bones information all of a sudden speak like they are in the industry? When I get to this point in the conversation I always raise an eyebrow a bit because it kind of sounds funny to hear this person who just didn’t know what a meta tag was all of a sudden talking about advanced link bait and conversion optimization efforts and techniques.

Are there any SEO or search marketing industry professionals out there that have ever fallen into this trap by their competitors? Competitive analysis is good to have and important to run a business but this type of approach is shady in my opinion. In the SEO industry there are absolutely no standards or benchmarks. Prices and approaches are all over the board and almost impossible to predict. Pricing is usually constructed according to the project being presented at that time. My price shouldn’t mean anything to a competitor.

Google To Offer Click-to-Call Search Ads On iPhone, Android & Palm

Google sent out an email to most of their advertisers a few days ago, explaining that they are launching click-to-call on mobile devices with full HTML browsers (e.g. iPhone, Android, Palm WebOS). It appears that this will be started automatically and as soon as Google launches this, I and other advertisers will have their phone numbers show up on mobile devices and be charged a cost-per-call when used.

In fact, the cost-per-call will be the same price as you would pay for a cost-per-click.

What if you do not want to participate? Easy, “remove the phone number from the business listings included in your campaigns targeting mobile devices,” said Google.

Here is a picture of the email Google sent their advertisers:

Google Click to Call on Mobile Ads

Forum discussion at WebmasterWorld.


Google sent out an email to most of their advertisers a few days ago, explaining that they are launching click-to-call on mobile devices with full HTML browsers (e.g. iPhone, Android, Palm WebOS). It appears that this will be started automatically and as soon as Google launches this, I and other advertisers will have their phone numbers show up on mobile devices and be charged a cost-per-call when used.

In fact, the cost-per-call will be the same price as you would pay for a cost-per-click.

What if you do not want to participate? Easy, “remove the phone number from the business listings included in your campaigns targeting mobile devices,” said Google.

Here is a picture of the email Google sent their advertisers:

Google Click to Call on Mobile Ads

Forum discussion at WebmasterWorld.



Yext – Are Half Your Phone Leads Junk?

Ross Weinstein, formerly of Ingenio, and now head of biz dev at Yext, has been bugging gently encouraging me to post something about the company and since they just convinced some smart people to give them $25MM I thought it was high time to pontificate on where Yext fits in my unified theory of the [...]

Ross Weinstein, formerly of Ingenio, and now head of biz dev at Yext, has been bugging gently encouraging me to post something about the company and since they just convinced some smart people to give them $25MM I thought it was high time to pontificate on where Yext fits in my unified theory of the local search universe.

So the interesting thing about Yext is that they are selling “Pay Per Action” calls.  What this means is that they generate phone leads to advertisers via trackable phone numbers, but instead of charging the advertiser on a per call basis, which is how Ingenio started, they only charge them when they deem the call to be a qualified lead.

I worked on a pretty big pay per call program at InsiderPages and I can tell you the amount of garbage calls we got through these numbers was painful, both for us and the client.  A number of services have taken different approaches to solving these problems, but Yext has focused on an approach that seems pretty novel.  They transcribe the audio of the calls into text and analyze the text for keywords.  Only when the call contains “qualifying” keywords they charge the client.

Here’s a sample transcribed call:

According to Ross, Yext scrubs out 44% of all calls that come through their system.  So Yext believes that almost half the calls that they provision are junk.  Yext gets most of its call volume from search engine advertising and distribution via local search directories, which is not too different than how other agencies that sell calls operate.  So if Yext’s algorithms are accurate then that means 44% of pay per call leads are junk.  Attention pay per call advertisers – you may want to renegotiate your rates.

Of course the price that an advertiser would be willing to pay for a call in theory should be based on the conversion rate of those calls so the junk calls should be built into the price.  Of course that probably doesn’t account for the time the advertiser spends answering the phone.

When you talk to local salespeople all they ever say is that advertisers really just want to pay when the phone rings.  Yext thinks that they really just want to pay when the phone rings and it’s not a robocall from a carpet cleaner or misdialed porn line.

If that is the case, Yext seems like it could be the Yext big thing (sorry had to work that in somewhere).

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